Posts Tagged ‘Ref’

To color red or not….

October 10, 2008

Last night I had a rare USSF U15 girls match for me.  (I have been 90%in NISOA and High School this fall)  I am late in the game with about 13 minutes left and the score is 4-1.  One of the forwards #25 for the winning team has not scored yet and you can tell she is really pressing to get a goal.  I have called two fouls on her in the last 5 minutes where she was simply push the defender off the ball to try and get to the goal.  She has lost her patients at this point in the game. 

She is dribbling hard towards the goal and takes a long dribble.  The smart sweeper came through and cleaned that ball up and with her third touch cleared it out of the back field.  Well after the ball is gone here come #25 in hard and slides into the sweeper who just finished clearing the ball, taking out the defender.  I hit the whistle hard and instantly went to the yellow card.  She says nothing, she knew it was coming.

From this point forward I could hear her chirping about every little touch with an opponent or call I made.  Finally there was a play where two players were battling for the ball, both bumping so I let the play go on.  She starts yelling behind me to call it.  Finally the forward for the losing team gets her elbow up cleans the defender out of her way which I quickly called.  Once I made the call I turned directly to #25 and said “no more, I don’t want to hear it.”  She responds “Then call it both ways”.  (Yep I should have tossed out the second yellow and said good bye) I simply returned my closest “look of death” that I have in my bag of tricks.  Well with 30 seconds left in the game she get a long ball and heads to goal.  My AR raises his flag for offsides and I hit the whistle.  She turns throws her hands up in the and says “You have got to be kidding”.  Their team captain is standing next to me at this point and I look at her and said “get control of her because I am working hard to keep her in this game.”  The captain jumped to action and quited her down. 

Once the game was over the head coach came over to grab his team cards from me and I mentioned to him that she started talking to me after she got the yellow and it took a lot to keep her in the game.  He looks at me and says “thanks I appreciate it but next time please toss her, she won’t figure it out until she gets the red.  That is why I left her out there was to get the red.  She hasn’t grasped it yet with me talking to her…” 

WOW…..OK two things I went through in my head.  1. YES second game this week I failed to pull the red when I probably should have.  When the coach is asking for the red on his own player that is a sign I should have tossed out a red.  2.  So this coach has a problem player and he just lets her play on????

Great game other then that.  Ran 1.5 in first half (one sided half with losing team against a wind) and 2.2 in the second half.  I didn’t wear the heart rate monitor. 

I have an over 30 match tonight with a U14 boys game at 9am in the morning followed by the 5A girls quarter final game.  Both centers.  I will update on Sunday on a much needed day off.


back to school…..

October 5, 2008

What a weekend…..The weekend started for me on Thursday evening with a NAIA women’s game.  This game was uneventful for the most part with a 4-1 victory.  The most lively part of the night was pregame when I called the center and AR1 to see where they were at with 13 minutes left on the pregame clock.  They made it on time stuck in traffic and we started on time so it was no big deal.  All of us had worked together several times so no really big pregame needed.  Actually the pregame was “don’t fu#* up”.  Everything was great in the game. 

The next day I had to take a half day from work to jump in the car with another official and drive 3 1/2 hours over to do a D1 women’s match.  The home team had lost two in a row on the road 6-0 and 6-0 (the schools two biggest loses ever) so we thought they might come out a little pissed off and playing a little higher level game, which they did.  This was a great game.  We went through double overtime with 0-0 game.  Both teams rattled the posts twice each and played tough.  Some how we got the game in between lighting storms and played uninterrupted with no rain.  The center on the game called a great game I thought.  I was really pleased with how the 4 of us worked for the night.  My partner and I jumped in the car to drive home that night through storms so we could work our games the next day.  7 hours for 2 hours of soccer….I loved every minute of it actually….

Saturday-  I was feeling really good in the morning physically.  On the schedule for the day was two more NAIA games.  The first was the woman’s team followed by the men’steams.  Both games with the same two schools.  Well the field is down in this bowl on the campus and we got about 1/2 inch + of rain the night before.  When we pulled up they were throwing dirt on the center field after trying to clear all of the standing water.  The field was in OK shape considering the amount of rain we decided as we walked the field.  We went into the locker room to change and a guy walked in looking like he had just got out of the shower but in his cloths.  I gave him a funny look and he said it was dumping outside…..We hustled and got dressed and went out side to a complete downpour with a lot of lighting….The game got postponed about 30 minutes and the field was now a complete mess.  Standing water and shoe covering mud. 

With about 3 minutes left in the first half we had a big storm roll in.  We made it to half time and the storm hit with more lighting then I had seen for sometime.  This storm brought even more rain then the first.  This one rained for a good hour with lighting the whole time.  This delayed the game close to an hour and half. After a wait we got back on the field and played on.  This game ended up getting tied up and went on into double overtime with a tie of 1-1 as a final.  The game turned out to be really poor soccer in general.  I have worked 5A girls games this year that have had higher level soccer but I think the field and weather played a huge role in the game. 

Game 2-  time for the men’s game.  We put 5 minutes on the board for warm up’s because now we were concerned with daylight.  It rained on us more but no lighting and the field stayed nasty.  I was covered with mud by the end and the home team in white shorts and white tops were not even close to white by the end.  Home team did end up winning 3-0.  One goal in this match was one of the best shots I have seen in years.  It was a rip from 35 yards out to the upper v that keeper got worked on it.  The coach for the visitors was the same coach for both teams and by the second half he had really wore thin on us.  It is hard to clean the slate off for him with 5 minutes between games for the next team.  Especially when in the womens game he yells out that he is getting homered…   We end the men’s game with 5 yellows and no reds.  At half if you would have asked I would have said there was going to be a red for sure but the score kind of helped calm things down. 

Well my legs are a little sore but nothing that bad.  I will write about the crowd this week at all three sites.  They are worth their own write up.

Rec Game

September 25, 2008

Well as I mentioned yesterday I took a U14 boys rec game last night.  Both teams had 9 players there until about 2 minutes before the game.  I was working with a 15-16 year old AR and the center was probably 22 years old but this was his first season refereeing.  The game was difficult to watch at times but worse was standing on the side with the parents.  If the sentence didn’t include “boot it” or “Nice boot” it was best not to open your mouth as a parent on that sideline. 

Yes this game was worth a grand $10.  BUT it did have two big upsides I decided.  1. I helped out my assignor who was in a pinch and that is always good.  My assignor is the type that remembers that and will help me when I need game count for example.  2. I got to work with new young officials who wanted to learn asked questions.

The center from the moment I walked up to the field was watching everything I did to prep for this game.  he asked for example why I was putting on two watches….His pregame was “do you guys have any questions”…I asked a couple simple questions more or less for my personal understanding of what we had in the center.  He then asked me how I work my pregame.  I explained the level of the game directs the pregame but I covered the basics. 

At half time he wanted to know how it looked.  We discussed a PK he called.  (for the record there was no way any day I would have called this PK but I didn’t bring that part up.)  I explained to him my problem with the PK call was how he called it.  Weak whistle, hesitation, look around, and then kind of pointed at the pk mark.  He basically showed no confidence on his call. I explained he lost the call in the way he called it.  I also mentioned to him to call something in the box he really needed to be in a better spot to call it.  He had no angle an assumed a foul happened when a guy went down.  He was very receptive to the conversation. 

Over all I need to back track a little from what I said yesterday.  I really don’t mind working these games if the intent is to help young officials, hell I might even kick the $10 back into the pool to help these young officials show up with correct uniforms.  What I guess I really have an issue with is the league sending out mass emails riddled with guilt about uncovered games and how officials need to be professional and step up and cover all games.  It’s not the officials fault you don’t pay well…give them a better reason to work these games then just $10.

classic bitching

September 18, 2008

Last night I was on the line for a 5A girls game.  Prior to the game we discussed how much one of the coaches likes to bitch and since I was AR1 I was assigned the task of keeping him quite.  (He was not the coach directly behind me so it was a little more difficult. ) 

He was decent through the game standing up and arguing about a corner that was given instead of what he felt was a goal kick.  (The coach was no more then 75 yards away he might of had a good look at it, who knows.)  So with about a minute and half left in the game the coaches team is down 3-0 and looking bad.  One of her players gets hit hard after the ball is gone and the takes a little extra shot while on the ground from the girl that fouled her.  The center lets play go on with a clear advantage but about 10 second later with a dead ball he signals to stop play and goes back and cards the girl that came in late and hard (keep in mind the girl does not play for the coach that loves to complain)  In high school you have to go let the coach for the team that received the card know what the card was for.  The center comes over to do so and and the coach who’s team received the card says nothing just nods in agreement.  The coach that loves to complain and player didn’t get the card stands up and starts to bitch “It is the 90th minute what is the point to that card.  You are a waste of our time.”  The center gives me a look to quite him down.  I turn to the coach and simply say “40 minute halves coach, we are in the 80th minute…”  My center busted up laughing and the coach shut up….

GPS Update.

September 16, 2008

Well in three weeks time and about 20 games ( I would say half AR’s) I have ran logged just over 89 miles with my Garmin 405.  The watch is deadly accurate which surprised the hell out of me.  I tend to forget to put on the HR monitor for some reason.  Probably because I don’t care about my HR in games like I do when I am just out for a run. 

Lets use last night as an example.  I only had one game 4A varsity boys match which went 3-1 so it was close enough.  First half I didn’t wear the HR monitor.  In 41 minutes of play I logged 2.66 miles in the center.  Second half I did wear the HR monitor and average 122 with a high of 160.  I logged 2.45 miles in the second half.  Not bad for a easy 5 miler…

Let me tell you this is a cool tool to have if your a data geek like me.  I have 2 AR’s on Wednesday and 2 more on Thursday (I guess it is my turn to step outside for both games) and then one center on Friday night.  I will update the stats from these games along with screen shots from the garmin software.

New Toy

September 2, 2008

So as I mentioned in my last post my wife and I celebrate our anniversary and I got the new Garmin 405 forerunner as a gift.  I plan on using it as my second watch during games.  I used it already once in a high school game the other night were we were forced into running a two man system.  (that a story for another post soon to come but lets just say I hate a two man system).  Need less to say in the first blow out JV girls game I covered just under3 miles in the game with a HR high of 152 averaging 121.  In the varsity I hit my HR high 3 minutes into the game of 160 (very quick transition I remember with a long hard sprint, she was quicker then I gave her credit for).  I averaged 125 with a high of 138 in the second half (game was put away by then and with the action away from me.)  In this game I covered 3.85 miles.  I am interested in a true center.  My best guess is I would have cleared 5.5 miles as a true center in this same game. 

Well I will start posting this in the future with certain game reports but I think this watch is going to work out and hopefully be helpful in determining work rate and fitness level.

Heart Rate

August 1, 2008

So this weekend I am working probably 9+ games it sounds like and I plan  on looking like “The Watch Man”.  I typically wear two watches during games.  This weekend I plan on wearing my two watches and my Pulse Heart Rate Monitor.  I am wondering what my high will be and the average.  I wear this device all of the time while out on my runs.  I am guessing my HR will go up as I do more games. 

I will post the results on here next week along with my diet for the day and see how that effects my hr.

Part two- The evening…..

July 9, 2008

I came off of the U17 game a little tired and in need of water and more sun screen.  (This is a great time to remind all of you to put on the sun screen).  I was heading to work a U14 girls semi-final game as an AR.  I was working with two Boise officials who I had worked with before.  Let’s start with the other AR.  He and I have a good friendly relationship and enjoy giving each other a hard time.  He was wearing his LONG sleeve yellow and simply stated he didn’t care what color we were wearing but he was wearing his long sleeve since his arms were totally sun burnt.  Well the center was slide onto our game when the other center was a no show.  They asked me if I wanted the center spot or would I like to work with a newer official that could really use some time in the middle of the field with two good AR’s.  Hey I was tired and all for working as my schedule was already set up for.  Well this newer official only had a yellow short sleeve with the old strips.  I switched to the old strips short sleeve and the other AR stayed in his long sleeve looking silly. (Oh don’t worry, I told him several times he looked like a fool). 

This U14 girl’s game turned out to be the worst game of the year for me.  Both team not only couldn’t find the goal I am still confident they didn’t know there were goals…This turned out to not be the “super division”, which explained to me why they were willing to put a inexperienced center on the game.  The play was so low I struggled staying focused…One team from Seattle area and the other from Tacoma area.  Both were weak.  So needless to say the game ended regulation with the score being 0-0.  The only excitement was the center giving a yellow for a soft air collision with the keeper on a corner kick.  He waited at least 3-4 minutes to give the yellow, granted this whole time the medical staff was on the field and the parents were giving him hell.  At half we asked about it and he said he wouldn’t have given the card if the keeper had stayed in the game so that is why he waited……I asked did you see the collision? His response, “yeah I think so”…..I simply said “Cards have to be “I know it was this” and once that training staff is on the field get out of there and give your card.  Personally I wouldn’t have given a card they both were straight up in the air with the keeper stretched out above her head and the player just going up for the ball.  If anything the keeper came into the other player’s space for the ball.  We didn’t discuss the foul selection only just the confidence the image that was given with the time line on the yellow. 

Well we went on to two 10 minute overtime and a shootout.  The team that should have won the game did win the shootout to move on. 

Game #4

My U12 boys game started late on the same field.  My AR’s for this game were both very green.  I had them run the flip for me while we finished out the shootout from the previous game.  As they handed me the game card which I had passed to them for the coin flip they had forgot who had won and who was going which direction…..Of course they hadn’t written it down on the game card.  I was so damn tired that I didn’t even question this with them….It simply told me I was probably doing this game on my own….I blew my whistle to call the teams out and sure enough they walked to their spots with one team waiting for the ball to kick off….Go with the flow baby….

I handed out a yellow card 3 minutes into the game to a U12 boy….This was a personal record.  As the ball was in the air an offensive player who was standing next the keeper hip checked with a little extra forearm the keeper on his butt into the goal.  I blew the play dead and yellow carded him….He didn’t question it at all. 

These guys were rather aggressive for U12 the whole game.  One interesting observation in this game:  One team from Spokane had a player with only one arm.  This was the only player that I never saw get tugged hard or shoved a little.  He passed out his fair share of punishment to others but it was never returned….Guys would simply give him his space. 

Game ended up 3-0 with little excitement outside of the obnoxious coaches from the winning team.  They were hammering me with 5 minutes left up 3-0.  I put myself close enough to their bench so the head coach could hear me without many other hearing.  As we waited for a keeper to retrieve a long out of bounds ball I turned and explained, “You’re up 3-0, if you’re excited about coaching in championship now would be the time to quite your bench area.”  I didn’t hear another sound from them….

DONE for the weekend…No championship games because I have to actually work on Tuesday morning….It was a great tournament with great fields.  They had to beg US Club to provide water for us and we were dreaming if we thought we would get food.  I heard that San Bernardino one of the other west coast regioinal locations didn’t get any water and the temperature was over 100.  I would have walked I were there….

Payday for Referees

June 24, 2008

Last week I was reading Columbus Soccer Referee (CSR) who is currently working at Regionals is blogging it all week long…He was writing about still waiting on a paycheck from a tournament worked a month ago.  It was ironically close an email I had received saying we would be getting our season paychecks soon since last Wednesday our association treasure was meeting with the president to sign checks.  It got me thinking when was the last league game and why does it take so long….So here are some facts around the timing for my area…

  • Last regular season game was May the 3rd.
  • My last regular season game was May the 1st.
  • We were told in Feb. we would have check before regionals (hopefully long before regionals).
  • Region IV Regionals ended this past Sunday
  • Last Wednesday we were told (and I quote) “For everyone waiting for regular season and State Cup checks, I have been advised that the SWISRA President and Treasurer will be meeting Wednesday evening to sign checks…..For the Fall, we are looking into a new payment system that will get everyone there money much quicker.”
  • The second half was promised for the spring last Dec.
  • As of today the 24th still no check.

So this leads me to ask….How do other area’s handle paying you for regular season games????

Persistent Infringement Card on Offsides Multipule Times

June 6, 2008

Well as promised I would follow up on persistent infringement yellow card for offsides multipule times…

It was commented on in this blog by a reader that they didn’t understand how a yellow was not given to a forward for FC Dallas in last Sunday’s game agains Denver for being offsides 5 times during the game.  I am assuming the logic behind this is that if the guy had come in for a hard tackle which was called 5 times we would expect to see a card.  Well to be honest I had never heard this before so I thought I had research it a little and see if a referee could really give a yellow for PI on offsides….

I took three approaches to this to see what was the beleif on this was.  First I emailed over to “Ask a soccer referee” asking them about the how legitimate this would be.  2nd I emailed a couple friends who are state officials here in Idaho.  3rd I recived more comments on this blog from “CSR“.

1st lets go my buddies responce.  I found this interesting because he does start to justify it even though he does circle the wagons and say it would still be slicing your own throat in a game....

Hi Alex,   The correct answer to this question is complicated.  First of all, I am not an official spokesman of USSF, so anything I say is subject to fallibility.  In my opinion:  1.  You COULD give the caution for persistent infringement, since the offender has persistently infringed the laws of the game.  2.  The spirit of the game tells me a caution is inappropriate in this case, unless it can be determined that the player is committing the offenses as a form of dissent or other cautionable offense.  3.  It depends on the level and skill of the players.  4.  I would not give a caution for PI in this case, unless there were extenuating circumstances.  I did not see the film, but it would be very strange to give a caution in this case as you described it.

Let me know what askasoccerref says.  Was the attacker doing it on purpose for some reason?  “

2nd lets go to CSR’s comment

 “I think you would be hard-pressed to justify a caution for PI if the only offenses are offside infringements. Indeed, from USSF’s Week 9 “Lessons Learned” they discuss PI thusly – “To disrupt play and ruin the entertainment value of a game, players persistently/repeatedly foul opponents. Such conduct often causes the frustration level of opponents to rise and, therefore, the intensity level of the game to increase. This can lead to dissent and retaliation. Recognizing players who persistently/repeatedly foul opponents is critical to game control.” 
The game control aspect is big to me….Does this yellow card help control the game?  CSR goes on to say…
“Considering offside is one of the least severe of any foul and a player generally needs quite a bit of time to be whistled for several offside infringements, I can’t imagine a scenario where showing the yellow card for PI makes sense if the only infringements involved are offside.”
OK so what does “Ask a soccer referee” say…..(let’s note they are actually speaking on behalf of USSF, the governing body over the officials for MLS as it says on their website, I highly recommend to everyone to go spend sometime on their site it is well done by some high level oficials “As of February 23, 2000, all replies to technical questions posted in this column will have been coordinated with and approved by the U. S. Soccer Federation’s National Program for Referee Development.”)
So below is my email to them and Jim Allen’s response. 


Here is the answer to your question:

 Jim Allen

USSF National Instructor Staff

 Name: alex

Question: Persistent Infringment & Offsides-

 On Sunday I watched the FC Dallas vs. Denver Rapids where one forward got called offsides 5 times. I read online where someone was calling for a yellow for “persistent infringement of offsides”. I have never heard of this and I can’t find anywhere that I could justify a yellow for persistent infringement for being offsides.

 I also would have to ask myself if I thought this yellow would help the game.

 Please let me know if a yellow can be given here?

 USSF answer (June 4, 2008):

It is perfectly legal to be in an offside position.  The person who posted the suggestion you saw online is probably the person who asked us the very same question almost five years ago about high school soccer, to which we replied on October 23, 2003:

No, there is no such rule in soccer, whether at the high school level or in the . . . worldwide game of soccer.  . . .  Persistent infringement applies to any and all infringements of Law 12 and to some infringements of Law 14.”

 I think the biggest thing here is that it does not infringe law 12 or 14.

 One last thing that should be noted about the FC Dallas/ Denver Game last Sunday where this comment came out of is that Denver was running an offside trap which goal was to catch Dallas offside.  We rarely see a defense try to attract persistent hard fouls.   

 A couple small notes about this before I conclude this long post…I really appreciate the post and the comments about persistent infringement.  I am not trying to beat up someone’s comment here I simply wanted to learn and share form the comment.  I simply didn’t know if PI would apply here so I investigated.  I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. Keep them up